1978 928 5 speed fuel pump delivery test.

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16 years 3 months ago #222 by vze2jshn
I recently did the fuel pump delivery test on my '78 5 speed 928 at the return line on the system pressure regulator that is part of the fuel distributor as outlined in the Bosch Fuel Injection and Engine Management publication. Shop manual calls for at least 1360cc = 45.9 ounces after 30 seconds-2 fuel pumps. I collected just about 44 ounces, is this sufficient considering I used a 7" hose with a banjo fitting and connected another 53" hosetotal 60" that ran up from the fuel distributor over the fender and into a container. I disconnected the 53" segnent of hose and lost some in the process also there was a seep at the fuel feed line which I have since tightened.Used a $12 watch with second hand for time. All things considered does 44 ounces seem sufficient? Any knowlegeable response is greatly appreciated. Greg Heinrichs

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16 years 3 months ago #223 by srshaw3
I know from experience that much of the fuel delivered is just return to the tank. I would expect at wide open throttle this would be reduced, but with consideration to your numbers, I would speculate that you have sufficient fuel flow, with the possible exception of under wide open throttle when every drop of fuel might be required.

My knowledge on this one, is definitely just some experience in seeing how much fuel was returned to the just installed fuel cell in my '80 Euro S.

What is the problem you are chasing?

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16 years 3 months ago #224 by vze2jshn
Thanks for the response. Car will sometimes start and idle correctly but stumbles, hesitates, misfires when driven. Then stalls and is hard to start. Then won't start, then might rev for a second and stall, then start and idle seemingly correctly only to start the cycle again. Checked cold start valve which was not spraying- replaced and the above problems surfaced again. I am troubleshooting now from square one.

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16 years 3 months ago #225 by srshaw3
A common problem is the electrical wire that runs from a control box on the passenger side firewall at about the front most point of the motor, the wire runs to the distributor across the front of the motor. If it is damaged, it can lead to many ignition issues, which your symptoms are among.

It is a special wire, and relatively expensive

Greg Nichol's site has some great tips, particularly for an older 928 in my opinion: nichols.nu/tips.htm

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16 years 3 months ago #226 by vze2jshn
Familiar with green wire issues which shuts off fuel pumps. My pumps come on when I am attempting to start engine so I don't think it is green wire related but you never know. I may have to reconsider in the future. Just trying to definitively determine if my fuel delivery as described is sufficient for me to move on to control pressure tests.

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16 years 3 months ago #233 by Kiln_Red

vze2jshn;244 wrote: Thanks for the response. Car will sometimes start and idle correctly but stumbles, hesitates, misfires when driven. Then stalls and is hard to start. Then won't start, then might rev for a second and stall, then start and idle seemingly correctly only to start the cycle again. Checked cold start valve which was not spraying- replaced and the above problems surfaced again. I am troubleshooting now from square one.


The fuel you accumulated in your test was certainly sufficient. Pumps are fine, though that does not dismiss other fuel related faults that could be creating your rough running condition. Is the mixture noticeably rich or lean? Have you done a vacuum check?

I've been battling a vacuum leak for a while now with my '84. Car began to run very poorly more and more often. It's also worth noting that it behaved in a cycle much the way you describe and the vehicle was going between extreme lean and rich fuel mixtures. Turned out that two of the intake gaskets were creating the leak. Never overlook your intake seal as a potential fault with a rough running 928. So often, the cause is a simple, easy-to-fix vacuum leak.

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