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12 years 4 months ago #16901
by emmanuelli
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Hi Guys:
I did a search for idle issues but didn't see a headline with something similar. The car starts well enough. Will have a slightly rough idle at start, fluctuating between 600-1200rpm until it warms up above the white line. then it will idle steadier between 900-1100rpm.
however at times, when im running from place to place the idle will go go from 400-1500 as the ICV (idle control valve?) is trying to keep the car running. Sometimes it will stall.
Running on the highway or anything that will keep the revs steady will be fine, but at idle i get all that mess. at times a good throtling will seem to bring it back to its senses. note that i don't get stuttering when pressing the throttle.
some treads at other sites point to the MAF, other to the temp sensors...
I did a search for idle issues but didn't see a headline with something similar. The car starts well enough. Will have a slightly rough idle at start, fluctuating between 600-1200rpm until it warms up above the white line. then it will idle steadier between 900-1100rpm.
however at times, when im running from place to place the idle will go go from 400-1500 as the ICV (idle control valve?) is trying to keep the car running. Sometimes it will stall.
Running on the highway or anything that will keep the revs steady will be fine, but at idle i get all that mess. at times a good throtling will seem to bring it back to its senses. note that i don't get stuttering when pressing the throttle.
some treads at other sites point to the MAF, other to the temp sensors...
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12 years 4 months ago #16911
by yaskota
Replied by yaskota on topic Ugly astham like idle
(as a newbie to both 928OC & Rennlist, this may be sacrilege BUT...)
FWIW- I'm having issues with my 84- which is a different animal from your 86.5. However, in the process of troubleshooting my Eleonore, I've encountered quite a few issues quite similar to yours on...that other 928 forum. Some old, some new.
Whatever the case, I hope you get yours running better soon!
-tom
FWIW- I'm having issues with my 84- which is a different animal from your 86.5. However, in the process of troubleshooting my Eleonore, I've encountered quite a few issues quite similar to yours on...that other 928 forum. Some old, some new.
Whatever the case, I hope you get yours running better soon!
-tom
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12 years 4 months ago #16919
by emmanuelli
Replied by emmanuelli on topic Ugly astham like idle
thanks tom. i'm still scouring the web for some thing i can follow.
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12 years 4 months ago #16939
by mm928
1983 928S - 16v 4.7L L-Jetronic
Slate Blue Metallic w/ Blue Leather
85/86 exhaust manifolds
Y-Pipe
SS Hi-perf Cat
S4 springs
Bilstein shocks
Air pump delete
VIN: WP0JB0926DS861180
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Sorry,,, I have an earlier beast, I am afraid they are a little too different to help much! Keep us posted, sounds interesting though.
1983 928S - 16v 4.7L L-Jetronic
Slate Blue Metallic w/ Blue Leather
85/86 exhaust manifolds
Y-Pipe
SS Hi-perf Cat
S4 springs
Bilstein shocks
Air pump delete
VIN: WP0JB0926DS861180
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12 years 4 months ago #16945
by wallyp
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Replied by wallyp on topic Ugly astham like idle
1) Find the Temp II sensor on the top front of the engine. There are two different sensors in the housing, one for injection, one for ignition.
2) Check the electrical resistance from each pin to engine ground (earth). The resistance at 15-30C should be 1.4 to 3.6 kOhms (note the "k"). The resistance at 80C should be 250 to 390 Ohms.
3) Remove the large connector on the LH ECU. Determine the pin numbers. Check the resistance between pins 3 and 5. With the throttle closed, there should be close to zero Ohms; with the throttle opened a small amount, there should be infinite Ohms (open circuit).
4) Locate the Idle Speed Control connector on the cross-bar at the top front of the engine. There are three pins in the connector. Make a jumper to connect the pins located at one o'clock and six o'clock. This kills the idle speed control. With the engine fully warmed up and the jumper installed, adjust the idle speed to 680-700 RPM. The idle speed adjustment is on the throttle housing, down between the first and second manifold tubes on the right side of the engine (left as you are facing it). Remove the jumper.
2) Check the electrical resistance from each pin to engine ground (earth). The resistance at 15-30C should be 1.4 to 3.6 kOhms (note the "k"). The resistance at 80C should be 250 to 390 Ohms.
3) Remove the large connector on the LH ECU. Determine the pin numbers. Check the resistance between pins 3 and 5. With the throttle closed, there should be close to zero Ohms; with the throttle opened a small amount, there should be infinite Ohms (open circuit).
4) Locate the Idle Speed Control connector on the cross-bar at the top front of the engine. There are three pins in the connector. Make a jumper to connect the pins located at one o'clock and six o'clock. This kills the idle speed control. With the engine fully warmed up and the jumper installed, adjust the idle speed to 680-700 RPM. The idle speed adjustment is on the throttle housing, down between the first and second manifold tubes on the right side of the engine (left as you are facing it). Remove the jumper.
Wally Plumley
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12 years 4 months ago #16949
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hi wally
thanks so much for the straight fwd trouble shooting. i'll see about doing this and reporting as soon as possible.
thanks so much for the straight fwd trouble shooting. i'll see about doing this and reporting as soon as possible.
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